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by guard0544
Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:41 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Shake up week
Replies: 63
Views: 26407

Re: Shake up week

Looking at the results, there def we're 5 starters missing from pshs. That in no way is an upset. If anything that just shows you something about pshs; losing by 2 pts to the second ranked team with 5 starters gone? Though I'm sure this is healthy between the two schools rivalry, it gets old as a s...
by guard0544
Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:06 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Cameron Alumni Tournament
Replies: 20
Views: 7913

Re: Cameron Alumni Tournament

Laya lost to Hall from Oak Glen in semis.
Bozak lost to Long from Hurricane in semis.
by guard0544
Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:13 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: AA/A 106 Rankings Oversight
Replies: 37
Views: 8478

Re: AA/A 106 Rankings Oversight

To answer the question we first need to ask Why do we have a poll and what does it represent? I think we all agree that the poll in its present form is for entertainment and discussion purposes. It does not affect seeding. There are three ways that I can see people looking at the poll If it attempt...
by guard0544
Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:04 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: AA/A 106 Rankings Oversight
Replies: 37
Views: 8478

Re: AA/A 106 Rankings Oversight

Bearhugger, How are JV wrestlers different than injured wrestlers who are out for the year? Both may be top 10 (Braxton Amos comes to mind). Yet, neither will wrestle at regional or state. Why rank a JV kid, but not Braxton Amos or other injured wrestlers. You need to be careful about who you say i...
by guard0544
Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:08 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: AA/A 106 Rankings Oversight
Replies: 37
Views: 8478

Re: AA/A 106 Rankings Oversight

Bearhugger,

How are JV wrestlers different than injured wrestlers who are out for the year? Both may be top 10 (Braxton Amos comes to mind). Yet, neither will wrestle at regional or state. Why rank a JV kid, but not Braxton Amos or other injured wrestlers.
by guard0544
Sat Dec 31, 2016 3:55 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: WV Duals
Replies: 19
Views: 5524

Re: WV Duals

I heard shallow. Could still be some good matchups though.
by guard0544
Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:51 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: TOP 6
Replies: 70
Views: 22057

Re: TOP 6

Well Miller answers again. Bumped up to 120 against wood 11-0. Like I said there is nobody in wv at his weight On his level. So let's just please let it rest he has dominated wv wrestling since he was a baby he just doesn't get the notoriety a Parkersburg kid would Maybe he can bump to 120 and wres...
by guard0544
Sun Dec 25, 2016 6:29 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Roane
Replies: 13
Views: 2740

Re: Roane

...and Hugger,..STFU (Some Teams Forfeit Unfortunately). When you post comments suggesting teams having a full line-up have better programs or live in better communities, you lose credibility. Some communities just have substantially more malnourished kids from an early age and substantially more o...
by guard0544
Sat Dec 24, 2016 3:13 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: State Tournament, Scoring, Forfeits, BYEs
Replies: 27
Views: 6561

Re: State Tournament, Scoring, Forfeits, BYEs

Very good, however, the real problem to clear up is finding a way to get these open slots filled with wrestlers to wrestle. Make the winners(point collectors) earn the points. I will borrow the logic of those who strongly support a forfeit in a dual setting counting as a win on the individual wrest...
by guard0544
Sat Dec 24, 2016 2:54 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: TOP 6
Replies: 70
Views: 22057

Re: TOP 6

This kid is getting some great reviews "Baddest of the Bad" - Bearhuger, WVMat "Real Deal" - Bearhugger, WVMat "Monster" - TrueSouthFanInWood, WVMat "He's the reason we don't shake the opposing Coach's hand, He pinned the entire staff and the Matmaids" - True...
by guard0544
Sat Dec 24, 2016 2:45 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: State Tournament, Scoring, Forfeits, BYEs
Replies: 27
Views: 6561

Re: State Tournament, Scoring, Forfeits, BYEs

Very good, however, the real problem to clear up is finding a way to get these open slots filled with wrestlers to wrestle. Make the winners(point collectors) earn the points. I will borrow the logic of those who strongly support a forfeit in a dual setting counting as a win on the individual wrest...
by guard0544
Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:02 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Top 5 wrestlers
Replies: 163
Views: 51294

Re: Top 5 wrestlers

Slack wrestled 126 at least once this year. Perhaps more. vs. Winfield he wrestled 126. Creamer wrestled at 126 vs. the Nitro/combined team at Mike Ellis Tournament. That doesnt necessarily mean either of them end up going 126...but according to posted results they have been there at some point this...
by guard0544
Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:20 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: What do you think?
Replies: 13
Views: 3390

Re: What do you think?

I see the AAA you list winning 8 of the matches.
by guard0544
Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:17 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Nitro's Frampton
Replies: 3
Views: 1619

Re: Nitro's Frampton

His regional weight class last year was dense with talent and left some talented wrestlers like him and Alex Hale from Winfield out of the state tournament.
by guard0544
Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:37 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: What do you think?
Replies: 13
Views: 3390

Re: What do you think?

As I glance over the projected top 5-6 wrestlers in each weight class for AAA and AA, I disagree with you. However, we will be able to better evaluate this later in the season.
by guard0544
Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:36 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Wheeling Park Duals
Replies: 8
Views: 4118

Re: Wheeling Park Duals

The formatting did not work out like I had hoped. But you should be able to figure it out.
by guard0544
Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:35 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Wheeling Park Duals
Replies: 8
Views: 4118

Re: Wheeling Park Duals

PARK DUALS 2016 RED DIVISION BLUE DIVISION POOL 1 POOL 2 POOL 3 POOL 4 1 (A) Cameron 9 (I) Avon Lake 17 (Q) Bethel-Tate 25 (Y) Buckeye Local 2 (B) Dover 10 (J) Cuyahoga Falls 18 (R) Brooke 26 (Z) East Liverpool 3 (C) George Washington 11 (K) Edison 19 (S) Carrollton 27 (aa) Howland 4 (D) Morgantown ...
by guard0544
Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:12 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Should Forfeits count?
Replies: 32
Views: 9669

Re: Should Forfeits count?

With all due respect to those coaches who may believe otherwise, forfeits do count as wins on an individual's record and to not count it as such only penalizes your own kids unnecessarily. The team earned the points by having him make weight and ready to compete. At a seeding meeting, it is very ea...
by guard0544
Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:42 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: WVU vs Virginia Tech at Parkersburg HS Dec.18
Replies: 8
Views: 3038

Re: WVU vs Virginia Tech at Parkersburg HS Dec.18

Will WVU ever be competitive in wrestling these days? Can they simply not recruit enough elite wrestlers? Curious... There were wrestlers in several of the matches with a chance to win, that it just didnt work out for. If the other nationally ranked wrestler was in the lineup, that would have been ...
by guard0544
Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:57 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Should Forfeits count?
Replies: 32
Views: 9669

Re: Should Forfeits count?

This has taken a sour turn. A forfeit is a match. If you take 5 forfeits in a day and actually wrestle another, you've broken the rule. I have no idea why this is a conversation. A forfeit is no different than an injury default. You count it as a win. That simple. In fact, I know no coaches that ta...
by guard0544
Sun Dec 18, 2016 11:42 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Should Forfeits count?
Replies: 32
Views: 9669

Re: Should Forfeits count?

This has taken a sour turn. A forfeit is a match. If you take 5 forfeits in a day and actually wrestle another, you've broken the rule. I have no idea why this is a conversation. A forfeit is no different than an injury default. You count it as a win. That simple. In fact, I know no coaches that ta...
by guard0544
Sun Dec 18, 2016 11:19 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: New potentially dangerous call
Replies: 12
Views: 3355

New potentially dangerous call

How is the rule to be interpreted and enforced? There seems to be an impression out there among some coaches and some refs (based on calls I have seen made) that the rule is anytime a wrestler gets to his feet and an arm is trapped the call should be made. However, I was trying to look up the actual...
by guard0544
Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:06 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Should Forfeits count?
Replies: 32
Views: 9669

Re: Should Forfeits count?

Here is what the rule book states on byes and forfeits. There shall be no byes after the first round of competition. Rule 9-2 ART1A For each match won by default, disqualification, fall or forfeit, six points shall be added to the team's total. In Tournament a forfeit is awarded 2pt. Notice the phr...
by guard0544
Sat Dec 17, 2016 6:32 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Should Forfeits count?
Replies: 32
Views: 9669

Re: Should Forfeits count?

If Noah Adams came into the state tournament with a record of 48-0 and everyone forfeited to him, he would be standing at the top of the podium with a record of 52-0. So forfeits count at the state tournament, why wouldn't they count any other time? What if he came into the state tournament and the...
by guard0544
Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:59 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Should Forfeits count?
Replies: 32
Views: 9669

Re: Should Forfeits count?

If Noah Adams came into the state tournament with a record of 48-0 and everyone forfeited to him, he would be standing at the top of the podium with a record of 52-0. So forfeits count at the state tournament, why wouldn't they count any other time? What if he came into the state tournament and the...
by guard0544
Sat Dec 17, 2016 1:36 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Should Forfeits count?
Replies: 32
Views: 9669

Re: Should Forfeits count?

Its rather simple. In a Team vs. Team competition the goal is to produce the best team across all of the slotted weight classes. If you fail to produce a wrestler for one or more of the weight classes that makes your team collectively weaker, and rightfully the other team gets 6 points for the forf...
by guard0544
Sat Dec 17, 2016 12:03 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Should Forfeits count?
Replies: 32
Views: 9669

Re: Should Forfeits count?

If you get your hand raised it's a win In regards to team scores it is. I doubt there is anything official in regards to individual records. I still go back to...who did you wrestle? If the answer is nobody....well... How could it possibly count for the team if it doesn't count for the wrestler? Yo...
by guard0544
Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:32 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Should Forfeits count?
Replies: 32
Views: 9669

Re: Should Forfeits count?

aaacoach33 wrote:If you get your hand raised it's a win


In regards to team scores it is. I doubt there is anything official in regards to individual records. I still go back to...who did you wrestle? If the answer is nobody....well...
by guard0544
Fri Dec 16, 2016 4:42 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Should Forfeits count?
Replies: 32
Views: 9669

Re: Should Forfeits count?

Obviously they have to count in regards to team scores in settings where teams are competing against each other. However, in regards to individual records, one simply has to answer the question "Who did you wrestle?" If there answer is no one, then you did not win a match. You cannot reall...
by guard0544
Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:57 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Top 5 wrestlers
Replies: 163
Views: 51294

Re: Top 5 wrestlers

AAA 106: 1. Windland; 2. Holt; 3. Donahue; 4. Gray; 5. Nida 113: 1. Miller; 2. Irizarry; 3. Staud; 4. Ackerman; 5. Welker 120: 1. Roberts; 2. Adkins; 3. Byrd; 4. Wood; 5. Talbott 126: 1. Martin; 2. Shelek; 3. Best; 4. Jordan; 5. Haskins 132: 1. Creamer; 2. Slack; 3. Shamblin; 4. Rawlings; 5. Isabell...

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