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by guard0544
Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:17 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Inconsistency of refereeing
Replies: 26
Views: 16358

Re: Inconsistency of refereeing

I suggest a physical conditioning test for all referees. I watched several refs who couldnt get to a knee or even a viewable position to count nearfall swipes. Not being rude but its hard to see criteria from the standing position. Im sure everyone has seen the video of the ref scooting on one shou...
by guard0544
Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:35 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Who won awards at the state tournament?
Replies: 11
Views: 4950

Re: Who won awards at the state tournament?

Have they ever split the OW wrestler in a single class? For me it would of had to go to Frazier in AA but I could see splitting it with Hall. Frazier just came along at the wrong time. The same time as Amos. Has anyone ever won four heavyweight titles before? Would he be looked at as the greatest i...
by guard0544
Tue Mar 03, 2020 4:50 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Inconsistency of refereeing
Replies: 26
Views: 16358

Re: Inconsistency of refereeing

I suggest a physical conditioning test for all referees. I watched several refs who couldnt get to a knee or even a viewable position to count nearfall swipes. Not being rude but its hard to see criteria from the standing position. Im sure everyone has seen the video of the ref scooting on one shou...
by guard0544
Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:52 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: DQ at States
Replies: 13
Views: 6248

Re: DQ at States

Sometimes its about one's vantage point and how things looked from it. The ref did not have the same view as the video. In the end, he has to call it as he sees it. I assume from his vantage point it appeared the wrestler swung and hit the other kid. I can see how it might appear that way given how ...
by guard0544
Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:14 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Tournaments Hosted IN Huntington
Replies: 8
Views: 5224

Re: Tournaments Hosted IN Huntington

Oh please All you wheeling homers need to get over the fact that the state tournament is not going back there. The Archers and the army they have assembled do a better job than anyone else in the state can even think of doing and the state tournament will be staying in Huntington. Sorry about your ...
by guard0544
Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:13 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: I may ruffle a few feathers
Replies: 17
Views: 15388

Re: I may ruffle a few feathers

Huntington's hospitality room is too good to move the tournament. The coaches and refs might starve at some of the other venues.
by guard0544
Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:22 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Heavyweight Stalling
Replies: 47
Views: 31308

Re: Heavyweight Stalling

It seems like the first couple of tournaments I attended this year the officials were calling stalling/fleeing the mat fairly regularly, forcing the heavyweights to wrestle. It almost seemed as though it was a point of emphasis for the officials. The last few tournaments (including Winner's Choice)...
by guard0544
Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:19 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: WV 285 - State of Union Address
Replies: 13
Views: 4839

Re: WV 285 - State of Union Address

Yeah but he could press that 285 right off lol. Maybe. But he didn't press them right off the last time it happened. If I were advising a 285 facing him, I'd suggest locking up over/under and taking your chances with that. High risk, high reward. Situations where there is the potential he could get...
by guard0544
Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:37 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: WV 285 - State of Union Address
Replies: 13
Views: 4839

Re: WV 285 - State of Union Address

At the start of the season, it was perceived by many that Frazier at AA/A and Chapman at AAA would dominate. Based on the scores I am reading and the "word on the street" I hear, both of these two guys have lost their "cloak of invincibility". If some other 285 gets his wind up ...
by guard0544
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:35 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Super Quad South vs Point
Replies: 23
Views: 10909

Re: Super Quad South vs Point

Someone should record the matches and upload to youtube.
by guard0544
Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:47 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Anyone have Midland vs Huntington results?
Replies: 5
Views: 2261

Re: Anyone have Midland vs Huntington results?

This is from Huntington's twitter account: 106 Lyles wins 5-1 113 St. Clair loses by fall 120 Winters loses 6-2 126 Viars wins by tech fall 132 Serrano loses hard fought match by decision 138 Chapman wins 2-0 145 Dempsey wins by fall 152 Barrett loses decision 160 Jones loses by pin 170 AJ Dempsey w...
by guard0544
Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:40 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: New State Tournament format
Replies: 46
Views: 22574

Re: New State Tournament format

I understand your point, however, one could argue picking the top 2 coaches in AAA, AA and A (assuming you mean based on team ranking?) would be selecting those who statistically have the most inherent bias making the decisions. The top two coaches are more likely to have wrestlers who are #1 throug...
by guard0544
Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:38 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Byes at state tournament
Replies: 20
Views: 8005

Re: Byes at state tournament

Certainly a good move. I’d like to have head to head as the first criteria, instead of overall record, to not put wrestlers with a tougher schedule at a disadvantage...but either way it’s a welcome positive move.
by guard0544
Fri Sep 07, 2018 4:32 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: OFFICIALS
Replies: 26
Views: 10776

Re: OFFICIALS

It may be time to abandon awarding points and keeping score. Just have the official to stop and start wrestling, and watch for potentially dangerous situations. After the match is over the official presents wrestler A to the crowd, then wrestler B. Whichever wrestler receives the loudest cheers from...
by guard0544
Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:57 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Wonder if any school is jump up??
Replies: 6
Views: 3055

Re: Wonder if any school is jump up??

I think every school should move up. Then what? I dont expect any to move up. But, lets say 8 schools moved up...how would that be handled? :)
by guard0544
Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:42 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Who to watch this year
Replies: 28
Views: 16312

Re: Who to watch this year

All the interesting ones graduated last year.
by guard0544
Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:01 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Is this for real???
Replies: 35
Views: 16626

Re: Is this for real???

The fact is that over recent years there are WV state champions in the record book that are there by mistake. The same can be said for various sports. even professional and college level. It is much easier for those in charge to let it happen than to loose credibility and an official making the cal...
by guard0544
Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:39 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Controversial Matches
Replies: 32
Views: 13495

Re: Controversial Matches

I don't know if I would use the word "controversial" since Hart clearly won the match. However I will say it has to be one of the worst officiated matches I have ever seen and speaks volumes about how terrible officiating is in West Virginia. I'm sure I'll hear the standard "if you t...
by guard0544
Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:44 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Controversial Matches
Replies: 32
Views: 13495

Re: Controversial Matches

I don't know if I would use the word "controversial" since Hart clearly won the match. However I will say it has to be one of the worst officiated matches I have ever seen and speaks volumes about how terrible officiating is in West Virginia. I'm sure I'll hear the standard "if you t...
by guard0544
Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:41 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Is this for real???
Replies: 35
Views: 16626

Re: Is this for real???

I'm saying the math is incorrect because whether he was down by 1, or he was down by 2- a TD was assumed to be necessary from a strategy standpoint. There's no way strategy can account for a stall call with that little time left. Counting on a judgment call isn't a strategy- it's wishful thinking, ...
by guard0544
Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:48 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Is this for real???
Replies: 35
Views: 16626

Re: Is this for real???

Your math is simply wrong. Even assuming the score on the clock was correct the entire time, the gameplan would not have been different. Saying otherwise is making an excuse that undermines the hard fought match that both of those guys wrestled. I thought the scoreboard showed Winfield was down by ...
by guard0544
Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:34 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Is this for real???
Replies: 35
Views: 16626

Re: Is this for real???

That's the thing though- Hart had a 2 point lead AFTER the scoring error. Then he was taken down. Now he has a 0 point lead on the board,. Both wrestlers are aware the score on the clock is 5-5 well into the third. Hart then escapes. Now the score on the clock is 6-5 Hart in the neutral position. T...
by guard0544
Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:19 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Is this for real???
Replies: 35
Views: 16626

Re: Is this for real???

Guard, it still doesn't hold weight for me. Wether he was down by 1 or down by 2, if a miraculous stall call with 2 seconds on the clock didn't send it to OT he was losing. Period. End of story. There is absolutely, positively, beyond a shadow of a doubt- no logical way Winfield thought they were i...
by guard0544
Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:01 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Is this for real???
Replies: 35
Views: 16626

Re: Is this for real???

Matmanwv, to your point about wrestling differently based on the score, which is an argument I've heard several times in regard to this subject- the match going to OT in the first place was due to a (questionable) stalling call with 2 seconds left that Winfield had no way to know he was going to ge...
by guard0544
Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:04 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: 28th Annual MASON COUNTY OPEN
Replies: 9
Views: 11498

Re: 28th Annual MASON COUNTY OPEN

coach999 wrote:Good match between Zane Lanham and Austin Cook. They wrestled twice. Cool was up 4-1 and got gassed and lost in OT 6-4. Very good match. Second match, Lanham was able to get a reversal and won 2-0. Loved this tournament.


What weight did they wrestle?
by guard0544
Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:17 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: 8th Graders to watch next year
Replies: 2
Views: 4069

Re: 8th Graders to watch next year

None
by guard0544
Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:03 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Braxton Amos
Replies: 44
Views: 36389

Re: Braxton Amos

I appreciate guard0544 arguing semantics. Doesn't matter. Braxton did not set a goal of being unscored on. A coach asked and Jenny confirmed toward the end of the season that he had not given up a takedown so he made a deal with a friend who smokes that his friend can't have a cigarette until he lo...
by guard0544
Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:58 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Video Challenge
Replies: 34
Views: 20107

Re: Video Challenge

So you believe that the Winfield wrestler would have been more aggressive down 2 points with 10 seconds left than being down 1 point????? The problem with this situation is that it was not a judgment call, it was a blatant mistake that a entire group of people, including the Winfield coaches, could...
by guard0544
Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:24 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Rules interpreter
Replies: 15
Views: 7436

Re: Rules interpreter

Great choice for rules interpreter. Not only is he a great official but also young enough to fulfill the position in a way that only Dr. Welker did. He has years of experience, great people skills, and a desire to be the best he can be!!!! Congrats old friend and as I told you years ago if you want...
by guard0544
Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:08 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Braxton Amos
Replies: 44
Views: 36389

Re: Braxton Amos

I figured Amos would get outstanding wrestler this year since no one scored on him Are you certain no points were scored? Absolutely Certain. No offensive points From Jenny Hannan, Braxton's season stats: Takedowns: Braxton - 94; Opponents - 0 Escapes: Braxton - 8; Opponents - 42 Reversals: Braxton...

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