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by coach_williams
Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:52 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: AAA Region 3 Predictions
Replies: 9
Views: 4161

Re: AAA Region 3 Predictions

You and I are pretty close... 106 1. Zach Barber OH 2. Tyler Haskins R 3. Joseph Fore GW 4. Cameron Zobrist GE 113 1. Phillip Sharp GW 2. Dawson Vincent OH 3. Kadin Ellis SS 4. Nathan Armes RS 120 1. Jasiel Kinder GE 2. Jack Lorea GW 3. Sam Buckland SS 4. Hunter Burdette R 126 1. Steven Slack RS 2. ...
by coach_williams
Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:55 am
Forum: Middle School Wrestling
Topic: Mason Dixon Tournament
Replies: 19
Views: 5858

Re: Mason Dixon Tournament

I didn't say it is never done, I just haven't been privy to it happening. I typically don't pay much attention to team scoring at bracketed tournaments since my kids have always been on teams with empty weight classes that were never going to be in the running for team competition anyway. I have als...
by coach_williams
Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:47 pm
Forum: Middle School Wrestling
Topic: Mason Dixon Tournament
Replies: 19
Views: 5858

Re: Mason Dixon Tournament

Could someone please explain to me how team scoring worked? I was thoroughly baffled the entire time. How exactly were you baffled? Typically in bracketed tournaments team scoring is done the same as in a dual. 6 points for a pin, 5 for a tech fall, 4 for a maj decision and 3 for a decision. I have...
by coach_williams
Fri Feb 12, 2016 3:24 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Simpkins vs Taylor @ 145
Replies: 10
Views: 3415

Re: Simpkins vs Taylor @ 145

I am always baffled when a ref calls stalling on a wrestler who is not winning. The concept of stalling implies that there is something to gain (as in being in the lead and stalling until the clock expires).
by coach_williams
Fri Feb 12, 2016 3:21 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Why have conferences for wrestling?
Replies: 16
Views: 4243

Re: Why have conferences for wrestling?

Frank wrote:Don t listen to armyscott,
It should be on everybody's bucket list.
To see Frank without a shirt.
Builds self esteem in some and a smile on everyone else's face


Um, as a former witness to shirtless Frank, I can testify that no one is left with a smile on their face but Frank :lol:
by coach_williams
Thu Feb 11, 2016 1:13 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Why have conferences for wrestling?
Replies: 16
Views: 4243

Re: Why have conferences for wrestling?

Yeah I meant region, not conference...hopefully I will wake up by quitting time :)
by coach_williams
Thu Feb 11, 2016 11:20 am
Forum: Middle School Wrestling
Topic: Mason Dixon Tournament
Replies: 19
Views: 5858

Re: Mason Dixon Tournament

Could someone please explain to me how team scoring worked? I was thoroughly baffled the entire time.
by coach_williams
Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:52 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Least Amount of Time on the Mat
Replies: 26
Views: 7185

Re: Least Amount of Time on the Mat

Bearhugger wrote:
coach_williams wrote:I like this more than MOW. MOW is just a popularity contest.



Understood, but using both awards only creates enthusiasm.


I actually don't mind this award. At least it is actually earned.
by coach_williams
Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:49 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: AAA Team Poll
Replies: 34
Views: 17014

Re: AAA Team Poll

I guess the sting of AA team whooping you in front of your home crowd has worn off enough that you are acting like a child to make yourself feel better again. Let it go and grow up. You say that like you think AA/A is inferior to AAA. This ain't football. There are plenty of AA/A teams that can hol...
by coach_williams
Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:46 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Why have conferences for wrestling?
Replies: 16
Views: 4243

Re: Why have conferences for wrestling?

To compete at states you must place at conference. Your record only matters at conference for seeding purposes and if you are any good you will have to face the wrestlers you have been dodging anyway, assuming you were dodging them because they are good.
by coach_williams
Wed Feb 10, 2016 11:26 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Least Amount of Time on the Mat
Replies: 26
Views: 7185

Re: Least Amount of Time on the Mat

I like this more than MOW. MOW is just a popularity contest.
by coach_williams
Mon Feb 08, 2016 8:42 am
Forum: Youth Wrestling
Topic: WVYWA Regionals
Replies: 144
Views: 851006

Re: WVYWA Regionals

From the Editor: Here is another question which came in my email: I have a son in X County who would like to register for regionals, but has scheduled to take the SAT on 3/5 – does he have to go to regionals for X County, or can he go to regionals in Y County on 3/6? Also, he has only wrestled in t...
by coach_williams
Sun Feb 07, 2016 2:39 pm
Forum: Middle School Wrestling
Topic: Mason Dixon Tournament
Replies: 19
Views: 5858

Re: Mason Dixon Tournament

grapple158 wrote:Is the 171 finals correct or has it been transposed?


Transposed.
by coach_williams
Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:51 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Getting 100 Wins
Replies: 1
Views: 1194

Getting 100 Wins

There are a lot of "Congrats" posts for wrestlers reaching 100 wins, which brought this question to mind. How does everyone calculate 100 wins? I assume that everyone just uses regular season wins for their school team. Am I wrong? Do open tournament wins factor in? Does everyone do it the...
by coach_williams
Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:43 am
Forum: Middle School Wrestling
Topic: Middle School State Championships
Replies: 19
Views: 5688

Re: Middle School State Championships

Another issue I foresee is will the wvssac be okay with another organization running the state tournament as they don't necessarily have the same agenda or interests. I don't foresee any issues there. The WVSSAC doesn't actually run state championships, they just make sure the organization running ...
by coach_williams
Thu Feb 04, 2016 5:22 pm
Forum: Middle School Wrestling
Topic: Middle School State Championships
Replies: 19
Views: 5688

Re: Middle School State Championships

I gathered that from the below post. But, if that is not the case, and it would be limited to actual middle school teams that are governed by wvssac regulations, then it would have a better chance. "by TJV » Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:37 pm WVYWA involvement would ensure that every middle school aged ...
by coach_williams
Thu Feb 04, 2016 12:51 pm
Forum: Middle School Wrestling
Topic: Middle School State Championships
Replies: 19
Views: 5688

Re: Middle School State Championships

The name of it doesnt really matter. Sure, call it the WV Middle School State Championship...because everyone in it is middle school age. But good luck getting them to sanction it as such when not all participants are wrestling for an actual middle school team, and thus not subject to their regulat...
by coach_williams
Thu Feb 04, 2016 12:47 pm
Forum: Middle School Wrestling
Topic: Middle School State Championships
Replies: 19
Views: 5688

Re: Middle School State Championships

I do not see any reason to get that WVYWA organization comingled in with the middle school teams. For the reasons already stated, a middle school state championship seems unlikely. But if they were going to sanction one, it would make a whole lot more sense to just sanction the WSAZ tournament and ...
by coach_williams
Thu Feb 04, 2016 12:35 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: AA/A Reg 1 is loaded if this happens.
Replies: 10
Views: 3820

Re: AA/A Reg 1 is loaded if this happens.

Looks like Valley HS was left out of region 1 also. I assume the first list is of all schools in a region.
by coach_williams
Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:48 am
Forum: Youth Wrestling
Topic: WVYWA Regionals
Replies: 144
Views: 851006

Re: WVYWA Regionals

The rules state base weight has to made one before the first region tourney, that would be February 14th as the last day to make base weight. Last night I was told the deadline is February 28th, can anyone clarify or confirm. It may be there somewhere, but I don't see any specific date. What I do s...
by coach_williams
Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:16 pm
Forum: Youth Wrestling
Topic: WVYWA Regionals
Replies: 144
Views: 851006

Re: WVYWA Regionals

From the editor This question came in my email If your son wrestled middle school. Does he have to wrestle in a qualifying tournament to wrestle in the regional to qualify for Jr. States. I spoke to Travis Phillips about this because I was unsure myself and he clarified it for me. A middle school w...
by coach_williams
Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:41 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Caleb Nice
Replies: 5
Views: 2200

Re: Caleb Nice

Congrats Caleb!!!!
by coach_williams
Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:40 pm
Forum: Middle School Wrestling
Topic: Middle School State Championships
Replies: 19
Views: 5688

Re: Middle School State Championships

Here is the problem with a Middle School State Championships. We would have to have a state championship for every sport. As soon as the WVDE and WVSSAC say that wrestling could have a state tournament. People will want to have a football states, basketball states, etc. They would also probably try...
by coach_williams
Mon Feb 01, 2016 3:57 pm
Forum: Middle School Wrestling
Topic: OVC CHAMPIONSHIPS
Replies: 22
Views: 6172

Re: OVC CHAMPIONSHIPS

So you are telling me you have never heard it referred to as middle school states? I didn't say it was I said it was referred to as. It is simply the largest collection of middle school teams throughout wv and as close to a state tournament as there is at this point. I take it your school can't att...
by coach_williams
Mon Feb 01, 2016 2:39 pm
Forum: Middle School Wrestling
Topic: Middle School State Championships
Replies: 19
Views: 5688

Re: Middle School State Championships

I dont know who they are talking with at the WVDE or even who is doing the talking, but I know who I would be getting ahold of to make this happen or at trying to get the ball rolling. There is a Putnam County middle school wrestling coach that actually works for the WVDE and it pretty big there. I...
by coach_williams
Mon Feb 01, 2016 1:51 pm
Forum: Middle School Wrestling
Topic: Middle School State Championships
Replies: 19
Views: 5688

Re: Middle School State Championships

A middle school state championship would be fantastic but the hands of the WVSSAC are tied by the WVDE which is hesitant to hold athletic state championships because they somewhat attempt to follow the middle school concept. The concept emphasizes intra-murals and does not promote competetive sport...
by coach_williams
Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:32 am
Forum: Middle School Wrestling
Topic: Middle School State Championships
Replies: 19
Views: 5688

Middle School State Championships

I just wanted to call to the attention of ms coaches an issue I keep seeing brought up...middle school state championships. Many of us, including myself, have long considered WSAZs to be the best option that we have for a true ms state tourney. Others argue that it can't be a state championship beca...
by coach_williams
Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:22 pm
Forum: Middle School Wrestling
Topic: Im sure i missed it, but
Replies: 1
Views: 1080

Re: Im sure i missed it, but

They may not have reseeded as I know that just the day before yesterday they were asking coaches to email and confirm they would be attending. Would be hard to reseed until they know for sure who is or is not coming. I don't see any mention of reseeding on the main page either. They will probably ju...
by coach_williams
Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:24 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: WV Duals - Out of State Teams
Replies: 12
Views: 3784

Re: WV Duals - Out of State Teams

True, he did, but read flowrestling article and watch video. A gift is a gift is a gift. Flo called it the worst officiating it has ever seen. I will let you make your own opinion. Mistakes do happen in matches but 3 mistakes in the same match create a pattern. David Carr in interview after said no...
by coach_williams
Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:06 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Has WV wrestling gone downhill as a whole?
Replies: 56
Views: 15657

Re: Has WV wrestling gone downhill as a whole?

Somebody already said this, but I am going to reiterate it. Coaches of other sports either do not promote their athletes wrestling or they actually inhibit or even forbid it. I have personally witnessed this. I know it is fact. It is wrong. A great example of a school system that promotes wrestling ...

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