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by KDunbar
Thu Feb 16, 2023 2:06 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: AAA 106 Review
Replies: 19
Views: 2522

Re: AAA 106 Review

I'm not making a statement on the validity of the rankings, but I'm guessing you have seen enough wrestling to know that the criteria you are citing is not very accurate on the whole in trying to make the decision you're proposing to make. I've seen wrestlers wrestle an entire match soley trying no...
by KDunbar
Thu Feb 16, 2023 1:53 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: AAA 106 Review
Replies: 19
Views: 2522

Re: AAA 106 Review

This post is biased. Bearhugger recently bashed Martin’s mom for questioning why he was using binoculars at WSAZ, when the EFHS kids pointed it out. I’d take everything he says with a grain of salt. He has a habit of threatening jobs, scholarships etc. if you don’t like what he posts. Please take h...
by KDunbar
Thu Feb 16, 2023 1:19 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: 138 AAA - A Case Study in Needed Improvement
Replies: 14
Views: 5237

Re: 138 AAA - A Case Study in Needed Improvement

Do you have any thoughts on "solving" the dilemma, besides buying more "soap"? I'm actually being serious in looking at this and I can initially only think of 3 options. The first is pray that one region only has 3 wrestlers in that weight class and it works out that the fifth p...
by KDunbar
Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:23 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: AAA 106 Review
Replies: 19
Views: 2522

Re: AAA 106 Review

Johnson of Woodrow Wilson is without a doubt, the #1 106 in AAA. Martin of University was pinned in 1:04 by Johnson. Owens of Spring Mills went the distance with Johnson and lost 4 to 0. Martin is currently #2. Owens is currently #4. I'm not making a statement on the validity of the rankings, but I...
by KDunbar
Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:12 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: 138 AAA - A Case Study in Needed Improvement
Replies: 14
Views: 5237

Re: 138 AAA - A Case Study in Needed Improvement

Do you have any thoughts on "solving" the dilemma, besides buying more "soap"? I'm actually being serious in looking at this and I can initially only think of 3 options. The first is pray that one region only has 3 wrestlers in that weight class and it works out that the fifth pl...
by KDunbar
Wed Feb 15, 2023 12:02 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: New Classification
Replies: 24
Views: 20691

Re: New Classification

WV HS wrestling needs 4 divisions. You will still have your two brackets like now. The only difference will be it will balance things out much better. right now some AAA region brackets have 5 wrestlers. A/AA regions have up to 18 teams in them. You can look at the numbers and easily figure out how...
by KDunbar
Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:46 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Regional seeding
Replies: 17
Views: 8299

Re: Regional seeding

Another good talking point is the MSAC conference . It could be a great tournament to facilitate seeding for AAA regions 3 and 4. The word on the street is some schools only attend to avoid getting fined. Furthermore, too many schools do not take it serious. It is becoming a JV tournament. I have n...
by KDunbar
Tue Feb 14, 2023 1:15 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Separating #1 and #2
Replies: 19
Views: 7538

Re: Separating #1 and #2

It should be a simple process, just seed the 4 regional winners and if true #1 and #2 are in same region, they will automatically be separated. Just my opinion! The rankings are statewide and kids can shift around the rankings based on who they defeat at certain points in the season and what the op...
by KDunbar
Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:55 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: AA/A ranked wrestlers per region
Replies: 107
Views: 2078785

Re: AA/A ranked wrestlers per region

What is a "southern" or "northern" region? OK, Region 1 is definitely northern and Region 3 is definitely southern, but 2 is in the middle of the state and 4 is mostly middle or southern. Also, a lot of this "better region" talk is influenced by athletic directors and ...
by KDunbar
Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:02 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: South #1
Replies: 1
Views: 933

Re: South #1

I would also like to congratulate the entire South team for the effort they have continued to put forth all year. And, although I'm not counting out the teams of Wheeling Park and Spring Mills, I also want to congratulate University who has a strong team from top to bottom. It should be a very fun a...
by KDunbar
Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:29 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: AA/A ranked wrestlers per region
Replies: 107
Views: 2078785

Re: AA/A ranked wrestlers per region

They've never been balanced, if Point Pleasant or Independence were in Region 1 the last 10 years, I'd love to know how many wrestlers they would've brought to Huntington year in and year out. And yes I'm saying the southern regions are weaker than hell This topic has been discussed in years past. ...
by KDunbar
Sun Feb 12, 2023 3:55 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Regional seeding
Replies: 17
Views: 8299

Re: Regional seeding

#1 and #2 should be enough. Who is at fault if you don't see your regional opponents during the two and a half month season? I can understand injury and weight class change but coaches should make a valid attempt to oppose each other during the season, either at a local tournament, dual, quad, etc....
by KDunbar
Thu Feb 09, 2023 1:04 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: SOUTH- Saint ALBANS
Replies: 10
Views: 5312

Re: SOUTH- Saint ALBANS

Unnecessary...and untrue. Both are acceptable! "Beware of the ringworm!" -- Noah Webster He's a friend, so it was all in good fun. What I said is true. It is also true, both are in Noah's book but historically "canceled" is American and "cancelled" is British, and late...
by KDunbar
Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:18 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: SOUTH- Saint ALBANS
Replies: 10
Views: 5312

Re: SOUTH- Saint ALBANS

It's actually canceled, unless you're British. Unnecessary...and untrue. Both are acceptable! "Beware of the ringworm!" -- Noah Webster He's a friend, so it was all in good fun. What I said is true. It is also true, both are in Noah's book but historically "canceled" is American...
by KDunbar
Tue Feb 07, 2023 4:30 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: SOUTH- Saint ALBANS
Replies: 10
Views: 5312

Re: SOUTH- Saint ALBANS

It's actually canceled, unless you're British.
by KDunbar
Tue Feb 07, 2023 4:27 pm
Forum: Collegiate
Topic: WVU vs UNI
Replies: 5
Views: 2261

Re: WVU vs UNI

Not saying anything that isn't obvious, but I don't think the 1-5 record is the issue. If you've only been beaten by #3, #8, #11, #14 and you've beat #18 (and their team was at full strength) then you might be the 17th best team in the country, despite any record. The loss to Oklahoma was unfortunat...
by KDunbar
Mon Feb 06, 2023 3:47 pm
Forum: Collegiate
Topic: High School freshman wins Edinboro Open
Replies: 9
Views: 4006

Re: High School freshman wins Edinboro Open

From the Tribune-Democrat. This would be a nice WVU recruit in a few years. EDINBORO – Competing against collegiate wrestlers, Bishop McCort Catholic freshman Jax Forrest captured the title at 125 pounds during Sunday’s Edinboro Open at PennWest Edinboro. Forrest mowed down unaffiliated Gannon wres...
by KDunbar
Mon Feb 06, 2023 3:29 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: AAA Compiles Team Rankings
Replies: 6
Views: 3368

Re: AAA Compiles Team Rankings

The state championship will not be determined by the number of individual champions but by the depth of place winners. And possibly by which team is healthy at the time. Many of the top teams still have some good wrestlers out with injuries. I imagine they all will be back for regionals; but will t...
by KDunbar
Mon Feb 06, 2023 3:21 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Dual team state championships
Replies: 11
Views: 4970

Re: Dual team state championships

Wow I didn’t even look at the match sheets, we are blessed in the MOV when it comes to wrestling. So sad to see this happening in these communities, wrestling is a great avenue to keep kids in shape and out of mischief. We need more promoting of the sport in our schools and recreation programs. In ...
by KDunbar
Mon Feb 06, 2023 3:16 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: State Duals individual match results
Replies: 4
Views: 1494

Re: State Duals individual match results

No idea when they were posted, but they are in the scores section now. http://www.wvmat.com/scores/23scores/00scjnhs.htm I'm guessing Jenny had to type them all in. Just thought there would be a better fan friendly and media friendly way for a High School State Championship event to be communicated...
by KDunbar
Mon Feb 06, 2023 2:31 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: State Duals individual match results
Replies: 4
Views: 1494

State Duals individual match results

I hate to be the one to complain, but if the WV State Duals are an important enough of an event to hold and the results and efforts of the kids are important I would think it would be important to those in charge and the coaches of the kids to make sure the results are available for them to get cred...
by KDunbar
Mon Feb 06, 2023 2:08 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Dual team state championships
Replies: 11
Views: 4970

Re: Dual team state championships

Where were the forfeits? AAA I don’t remember any maybe one? I'm assuming he meant: Washington - 7 forfeits St. Albans - 5 forfeits Beckley - 4 forfeits Midland - 1 forfeit Park - 1 forfeit Spring Mills - 1 forfeit Only South and University had a full team throughout all the duals with individual r...
by KDunbar
Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:52 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Single A Challenge
Replies: 3
Views: 1375

Re: Single A Challenge

1st Greenbrier East 2nd Tyler Consolidated 3rd Ravenswood. After this weekends tournament it's clear Greenbrier East is the #1 Team in "A". Ravenswood put on a great showing, outing Wahama and Williamstown. I think they make a strong argument for the #2 spot. If you haven't watched them, ...
by KDunbar
Sun Feb 05, 2023 7:55 pm
Forum: Middle School Wrestling
Topic: WSAZ Numbers by Weight Class
Replies: 7
Views: 4835

Re: WSAZ Numbers by Weight Class

We are going to keep an eye on this for a couple years and make adjustments if necessary. Coaches and tournament directors please keep notes on this for a future data call. This will assist in determining if and where adjustments need to be made moving forward. Thanks Jeremy Callen If it's known th...
by KDunbar
Thu Feb 02, 2023 6:45 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: WSAZ Best Performers
Replies: 21
Views: 7889

Re: WSAZ Best Performers

Any d1 type kids to hope ends ip at wvu? I know Felix visited. Kehler looks well on his way. Sucks not seeing Wight or Dolan I want to be clear that I am asking this question with the best of intentions and not with any attempt of being disrespectful or talk in a disparaging manner about any wrestk...
by KDunbar
Wed Feb 01, 2023 5:34 pm
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: WSAZ Best Performers
Replies: 21
Views: 7889

Re: WSAZ Best Performers

Any d1 type kids to hope ends ip at wvu? I know Felix visited. Kehler looks well on his way. Sucks not seeing Wight or Dolan I want to be clear that I am asking this question with the best of intentions and not with any attempt of being disrespectful or talk in a disparaging manner about any wrestk...
by KDunbar
Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:07 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: WSAZ Best Performers
Replies: 21
Views: 7889

Re: WSAZ Best Performers

106- Craft, is this the highest a female has ever placed at WSAZ high school tournament? 113- McComas, was unchallenged 120- Wood, In a weight class that was heavily bombarded with out of state talent he won it for wv 126- Knight, beat the #1AA at winners choice and #1AAA at WSAZ 132- Andrick, beat...
by KDunbar
Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:01 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: WSAZ Best Performers
Replies: 21
Views: 7889

Re: WSAZ Best Performers

To describe Hagedorn as “ unseeded “ may b technically correct since he changed weight classes but he essentially WAS a seeded wrestler. That’s a fair point! Not sure how he gets moved up to the next weight and is unseeded then. Did this happened with anyone else that you know of? :D Seems like tha...
by KDunbar
Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:57 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: Winners Choice and OVAC > WSAZ
Replies: 14
Views: 11735

Re: Winners Choice and OVAC > WSAZ

I believe Seth Easter was a 4 time Winner's Choice Champion: '05 @ 130, '06 @ 120, "07 @ 140, '08@ 145 He and Mitch Smith are the only two I can find. 4x state champions Adam Bicak, Andy Thomas (controversialy) , Dylan Cottrell, Tory Bennett, and Zach Frazier all took L's at Winners Choice Gag...
by KDunbar
Sat Jan 28, 2023 1:48 am
Forum: High School Wrestling
Topic: BEAR TRACKS - 132 to 138 Edition 6 WSAZ Week
Replies: 3
Views: 1688

Re: BEAR TRACKS - 132 to 138 Edition 6 WSAZ Week

Jon Perkins wrote:
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