Sam's 2018 All Class Rankings

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Sam's 2018 All Class Rankings

Postby yosemite_sam » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:02 am

Enjoy...

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Re: Sam's 2018 All Class Rankings

Postby Diamond » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:13 am

Nice job! I do see some drastic changes in wait. These ranking can be very motivating to some.

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Re: Sam's 2018 All Class Rankings

Postby rodneyjwv » Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:18 am

Thanks Sam, your ranking help feed the discussion boards, I like reading the chicken scratch it creates. I,give Bearhugger idea 100% . The some JV wrestlers have great records placed in tournaments, they should be ranked also right with Varsity. They beat varsity wrestlers at tournaments. I see no problem having 2 kids from one school being ranked in same weight, if he has beaten head to head others on list he should be ranked also.
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Re: Sam's 2018 All Class Rankings

Postby TrueSouthFanInPburg » Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:02 am

M.Simpson-Uni has been out all year with a broken hand. G. Donahue-PHS moved down to 106 several days ago. Long at 145 has lost to Camiletti-Bke and Timberlake-WP. Swafford lost to Fullerton-PS and then he moved up to 285 and then dropped to 220. Smithson-Buck dropped to 145 a long time ago. Miller-Pres is 25-0 at 182. Chapman-Riv is deinitly # 2 in AAA at 285, he only lost to Haga-PS 1-0. Stewart-Hunt lost to Carman-JM. N. Bailey-SA should be in the top 10 at 138. T. Williams-GW only lost to your #2 Wood-WP 6-4 and deserves to be in the top 10 with a record of 22-3. Roberts-PS beat Lorea-GW 7-0, Miller-Muss beat Lorea-GW 8-5. I don't mean to pick you apart, I just think you missed these results.

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Re: Sam's 2018 All Class Rankings

Postby yosemite_sam » Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:51 am

Thanks for the input... I will take this info into consideration and make adjustments...

-YS
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Re: Sam's 2018 All Class Rankings

Postby guard0544 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:56 am

Adding to your comments on 145

Long has split with Timberlake, but won the last matchup.

Re: Camilletti, a simple head to head look doesn’t work because several wrestlers have all defeated each other. I believe Long has since defeated at least 3 wrestlers who hold wins over Camilletti: 2-1 Dec over Wood (John Marshall); 2-1 Dec over Creese (Oak Glen); and11-2 Major dec over the Avon Lake kid who defeated Camilletti.

This list seems to reflect those results and focus on the most recent placement at the Cameron tournament where Long picked up the wins over Wood and Creese, and Creese defeated Wood.

My own list is very similar.

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Re: Sam's 2018 All Class Rankings

Postby TrueSouthFanInTampa » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:25 am

Is Owen Porter from Spring Valley 220 Champion not wrestling?

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Re: Sam's 2018 All Class Rankings

Postby 69fan » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:33 am

Ethan Hardy from Washington beat Cody Shindeldecker 2-1 over this past weekend

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Re: Sam's 2018 All Class Rankings

Postby aaacoach56 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:59 am

Owen Porter is wrestling at 285

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Re: Sam's 2018 All Class Rankings

Postby Gator » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:10 am

Thank you Sam for caring enough about the sport to do all this research. I’m sure it’s difficult to gather all the data needed to do this. I’m sure YS also appreciates the input and he can make adjustments to his rankings.
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Re: Sam's 2018 All Class Rankings

Postby cspranger » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:10 pm

At 182 Miller from Preston beat Burgess I believe. @ Hedgesville.

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Re: Sam's 2018 All Class Rankings

Postby aacoach70 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:47 pm

Sam, here are some more results you might find useful: 145- Jake Whiting(RC) has dec Long (Hurr) 5-4. Davis (BkSp) has dec Whiting (RC) 4-3. Pretty sure both have beaten Alderman. Maybe Davis 4, Whiting 5, depending on where you think Smithson goes. I don't think there's a whole lot separating the top 10-15 boys in this class. 152- Harvey should be at the #2 spot, I believe. If Kincell is at 152, I don't know if he has beaten Mitchell (LC), but Mitchell has dec Reichard 6-4. Possibly Mitchell 3, Reichard 4/5, Kincell 4/5,.. Other than a bit of a gap at the top, I think these guys are all pretty closely-matched also. Thanks, Sam, for doing these. I guess a lot of people do enjoy seeing a number by a name.

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Re: Sam's 2018 All Class Rankings

Postby baxter841 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:22 pm

If you know wrestlers on these rankings are at differnt weights please list them.

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Re: Sam's 2018 All Class Rankings

Postby WP1992 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:32 pm

It appears Dennison (132 form Braxton) has been at 126 the last couple matches, according to results.

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Re: Sam's 2018 All Class Rankings

Postby Bearhugger » Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:53 pm

aaacoach56 wrote:Owen Porter is wrestling at 285


Interesting and good news.
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Re: Sam's 2018 All Class Rankings

Postby SC1992 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:50 pm

Alderman is at 138 since the National Giard Duals. Wrestled up at 145 to wrestle Whiting. HE didn’t wrestle Davis.

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Re: Sam's 2018 All Class Rankings

Postby SC1992 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:01 pm

aacoach70 wrote:Sam, here are some more results you might find useful: 145- Jake Whiting(RC) has dec Long (Hurr) 5-4. Davis (BkSp) has dec Whiting (RC) 4-3. Pretty sure both have beaten Alderman. Maybe Davis 4, Whiting 5, depending on where you think Smithson goes. I don't think there's a whole lot separating the top 10-15 boys in this class. 152- Harvey should be at the #2 spot, I believe. If Kincell is at 152, I don't know if he has beaten Mitchell (LC), but Mitchell has dec Reichard 6-4. Possibly Mitchell 3, Reichard 4/5, Kincell 4/5,.. Other than a bit of a gap at the top, I think these guys are all pretty closely-matched also. Thanks, Sam, for doing these. I guess a lot of people do enjoy seeing a number by a name.


Alderman was at 138 at the National Guard Duals. Moved up to 145 to wrestle Whiting and Edenfield. He did not wrestle Davis.

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Re: Sam's 2018 All Class Rankings

Postby Coach_BradleyReed » Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:18 am

cspranger wrote:At 182 Miller from Preston beat Burgess I believe. @ Hedgesville.


This is correct.

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Re: Sam's 2018 All Class Rankings

Postby matcoach90 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:55 am

Kincel is at 160... just wrestled 152 last weekend to fill an injury spot.

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Re: Sam's 2018 All Class Rankings

Postby maskedman » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:42 pm

matcoach90 wrote:Kincel is at 160... just wrestled 152 last weekend to fill an injury spot.

He wrestled at 152 this weekend too. May be there to stay!

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Re: Sam's 2018 All Class Rankings

Postby maskedman » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:42 pm

matcoach90 wrote:Kincel is at 160... just wrestled 152 last weekend to fill an injury spot.

He wrestled at 152 this weekend too. May be there to stay!

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Re: Sam's 2018 All Class Rankings

Postby ZZChooseTop » Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:47 am

aaacoach56 wrote:Owen Porter is wrestling at 285


If this is true Vortexfan is going to be very very angry. Expect a post about loyalty and ethics again.

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Re: Sam's 2018 All Class Rankings

Postby Geoswaff » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:31 pm

Looks like Mundy the 160 from Berkeley Spring has wrestled 152 the last couple of weeks

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Re: Sam's 2018 All Class Rankings

Postby KDunbar » Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:19 pm

Hopefully Sam will give us an updated list after this weekend"s matches help clarify ( or muddy) the picture.

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Re: Sam's 2018 All Class Rankings

Postby aacoach114 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:27 pm

Frampton from nitro won the 182 class at Winner choice beating Miller

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Re: Sam's 2018 All Class Rankings

Postby aacoach114 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:28 pm

Frampton from nitro won the 182 class at Winner choice beating Miller

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Re: Sam's 2018 All Class Rankings

Postby Gator » Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:55 pm

I don’t like putting undue pressure on Sam, but maybe we could see an AAA and AA/A ranking now that a few big tournaments are completed.

Thanks for what you do for the sport YS!
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Re: Sam's 2018 All Class Rankings

Postby vortexfan » Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:22 am

ZZChooseTop wrote:
aaacoach56 wrote:Owen Porter is wrestling at 285


If this is true Vortexfan is going to be very very angry. Expect a post about loyalty and ethics again.


As Trump would say “WRONG!” zzchoosetop, the earlier ethics post has nothing to do with Porter, if it wasn’t for the kid involved that doesn’t want his name mentioned,I would explain a lot more about that. Its not my kid but I support him. Thanks for thinking of me though. BTW kid didn’t quit but his dream of going to states will
Not happen but if JVs were allowed he would have a very good chance of placing among the competition. Another topic. Good luck to you

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Re: Sam's 2018 All Class Rankings

Postby Bearhugger » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:08 am

vortexfan wrote:
ZZChooseTop wrote:
aaacoach56 wrote:Owen Porter is wrestling at 285


If this is true Vortexfan is going to be very very angry. Expect a post about loyalty and ethics again.


As Trump would say “WRONG!” zzchoosetop, the earlier ethics post has nothing to do with Porter, if it wasn’t for the kid involved that doesn’t want his name mentioned,I would explain a lot more about that. Its not my kid but I support him. Thanks for thinking of me though. BTW kid didn’t quit but his dream of going to states will
Not happen but if JVs were allowed he would have a very good chance of placing among the competition. Another topic. Good luck to you


Quite a few JVs placed in numerous weight classes at the WSAZ. Review the results. Much more than last season at the WSAZ.
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Re: Sam's 2018 All Class Rankings

Postby mscoach64 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:21 am

Joel Cruickshanks of Clay beat Reichard of Roane this past weekend 7-0


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