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Big 12

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:39 pm
by dunbar76
Will WVU ever host the Big 12 wrestling tournament?

Re: Big 12

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 8:20 am
by Jon Perkins
This is the biggest problem with the BIG 12 conference, they have tended to hold their conference tournament at a neutral site since they started expanding. Since 2016 it has been held in either Kansas City, MO or Tulsa, Oklahoma. It is hard for me to see this changing especially with some of the PAC 12 teams entering the BIG 12 next year.

Re: Big 12

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 12:45 pm
by Bearhugger
Logistically, it makes no sense for WVU to host the Big 12. Operating costs are becoming a higher focus in everything and that is now including wrestling.

Re: Big 12

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:56 pm
by Jon Perkins
Bearhugger wrote:Logistically, it makes no sense for WVU to host the Big 12. Operating costs are becoming a higher focus in everything and that is now including wrestling.

What operating costs would they have that wouldn't be covered by the Big 12 Athletic Conference. The ticket sales would be more than enough to cover the electric bill.

Re: Big 12

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:32 pm
by KDunbar
Bearhugger wrote:Logistically, it makes no sense for WVU to host the Big 12. Operating costs are becoming a higher focus in everything and that is now including wrestling.

Logistically, I am wondering if Morgantown has adequate facilities for that many teams, personel, fans, etc. for lodging and eating in the fashion that larger cities can handle without everyone to have to be traveling by cars (which they won't have with them). Even for wrestling and their fan base. On the other hand, Pittsburgh as a neutral site every 10 years or so would be nice, but I agree it will never happen.

Re: Big 12

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:48 pm
by Jon Perkins
This is a good point. Although I believe Morgantown could handle hosting an event like this, I do not think it would be the most accommodating and fan friendly experience. However, I wonder about schools like South Dakota State, North Dakota State, Norhtern Iowa, and possibly even Norhtern Colorado and if those towns could accommodate 10,000 people for three to four days. Without looking into it, I am going to guess that having the conference tournament at a neutral site began when they expanded the number of teams in the Big 12 conference to make it more welcoming for the teams I mentioned.

Just one other thought, this is another reason that some of the WV high school recruits choose to go to a college in the MAC and ACC conferences. Their matches and conference tournaments will always be closer to home making more affordable for their parents to travel to.

Re: Big 12

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 7:13 pm
by Bearhugger
Jon Perkins wrote:This is a good point. Although I believe Morgantown could handle hosting an event like this, I do not think it would be the most accommodating and fan friendly experience. However, I wonder about schools like South Dakota State, North Dakota State, Norhtern Iowa, and possibly even Norhtern Colorado and if those towns could accommodate 10,000 people for three to four days. Without looking into it, I am going to guess that having the conference tournament at a neutral site began when they expanded the number of teams in the Big 12 conference to make it more welcoming for the teams I mentioned.

Just one other thought, this is another reason that some of the WV high school recruits choose to go to a college in the MAC and ACC conferences. Their matches and conference tournaments will always be closer to home making more affordable for their parents to travel to.


Interesting. Name one recruit that went to MAC or ACC conferences because it was closer to home and facilitated travel for their parents.

Re: Big 12

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:06 pm
by Jon Perkins
Why wouldn’t that be a reason? When I was in college there is no way possible my parents could’ve flown to Tulsa, OK and they certainly didn’t have a vehicle capable of making the trip. Feasibly it wasn’t possible for them but they could’ve drove to Blacksburg or to Pittsburg, making the trip to NC may have been stretch for them.

Don't make it sound like I was insinuating this is a huge reason for not choosing one school over another. However, you should not be naive and pretend it is not a factor. Just because someone in the family gets a scholarship, doesn’t mean the parents are not struggling at home.

Re: Big 12

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 11:50 pm
by Bearhugger
Jon Perkins wrote:Why wouldn’t that be a reason? When I was in college there is no way possible my parents could’ve flown to Tulsa, OK and they certainly didn’t have a vehicle capable of making the trip. Feasibly it wasn’t possible for them but they could’ve drove to Blacksburg or to Pittsburg, making the trip to NC may have been stretch for them.

Don't make it sound like I was insinuating this is a huge reason for not choosing one school over another. However, you should not be naive and pretend it is not a factor. Just because someone in the family gets a scholarship, doesn’t mean the parents are not struggling at home.


I read your statement as if this was indeed why some WV wrestlers selected the ACC or MAC. Now if you are talking in terms of "possibilities", then sure. Lets move on.

Re: Big 12

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 12:01 am
by dunbar76
Do any other D1 conferences in wrestling hold conference tournaments at a neutral site?

Re: Big 12

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:41 am
by Jon Perkins
dunbar76 wrote:Do any other D1 conferences in wrestling hold conference tournaments at a neutral site?

Not that I am aware of, even the SoCon and the MAC have revolving conference tournaments. Ohio University was the host of the MAC tournament last year, and if a little town like Athens, Ohio, can pull off hosting a conference tournament then I know Morgantown can do it.

Re: Big 12

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 9:06 pm
by dunbar76
Stop hosting at a neutral site. Stimulate the big 12 local economies. Bring it to Morgantown!!!